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From: Alex Schuster <wonko@×××××××××.org>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: [gentoo-user] Going ~x86?
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 15:21:38
Message-Id: 200911111621.27909.wonko@wonkology.org
1 Hi there!
2
3 I am not running ~x86 at the moment. I like to stay on the safer side, and
4 it has not been too much trouble. Yet. There are things in have in
5 package.keywords, quite a lot actually.
6
7 Most packages are not a problem. Examples are games-fps/quake3, games-
8 fps/worldofpadman or games-strategy/widelands, which I want to use, but
9 they are all keyworded. Or net-misc/youtube-dl, which changes quite
10 frequently to adopt to youtube changes, and I want to always have the
11 newest version. Or firefox 3.5. which took quite a while to go stable I
12 think. Those are no problem.
13
14 There are other packages, which I unmask because of trouble with stable
15 ones. One example is sys-apps/util-linux-2.15.1, which I need in order to
16 make cfdisk work with large drives. Sometimes they pull in something else
17 I have to unmask, but it's no big problem.
18
19 Then there is KDE4. I like it, but there are still so many bugs, so I want
20 it to be a pretty new version from kde-testing. And I guess this is what
21 is responsible for most of my problems, which make the @world update
22 break. The current problem is with samba, apparently the monolithic
23 package is being replaced by split ones, like with Qt. The new version is
24 needed by kde-base/kdebase-kioslaves-4.3.3-r1 (4.3.3 is stable). I can
25 mask this, and the @world update will work, with a minor complaint about
26 the masked kioslaves.
27
28 I wonder if it's worth the trouble. I read here that running a full ~x86
29 system would probably be easier. And I'd like to try, but while going from
30 x86 to ~x86 is easy, the other way is quite hard, isn't it? If possible at
31 all.
32
33 What about stability problems? I'd expect some, as the ~x86 stuff is not
34 so fully tested. What are your experiences? And, do you also get blockers
35 from time to time that are hard to solve?
36
37 I know this topic has been here a couple of times, sorry for bothering
38 you, but I do not dare yet to make the switch.
39
40 Thanks for comments on this. I won't blame anybody for suggesting to make
41 the switch in case I will regret this later :)
42
43 BTW, when I test this and enable ~x86 in make.conf, I first need to set
44 the extras use flag for udev, and then I get these blockers. So I have to
45 go to openrc, okay. And again trouble with my ati drivers. But maybe this
46 will be over once I have completed the switch.
47
48 [blocks B ] <sys-apps/sysvinit-2.86-r11 ("<sys-apps/sysvinit-2.86-
49 r11" is blocking sys-apps/openrc-0.5.2-r2)
50 [blocks B ] >=x11-base/xorg-server-1.7.0 (">=x11-base/xorg-
51 server-1.7.0" is blocking x11-drivers/ati-drivers-9.9-r2, x11-drivers/ati-
52 drivers-9.10)
53
54 Total: 611 packages (548 upgrades, 1 downgrade, 45 new, 13 in new slots, 4
55 reinstalls, 1 interactive), Size of downloads: 1,114,567 kB
56 Conflict: 15 blocks (1 unsatisfied)
57 Portage tree and overlays:
58 [0] /usr/portage/tree
59 [1] /usr/local/portage/layman/zugaina
60 [2] /usr/local/portage/layman/kde-testing
61 [3] /usr/local/portage/layman/science
62 [4] /usr/local/portage
63
64 * Error: The above package list contains packages which cannot be
65 * installed at the same time on the same system.
66
67 ('ebuild', '/', 'x11-base/xorg-server-1.7.1', 'merge') pulled in by
68 >=x11-base/xorg-server-1.0.99 required by ('installed', '/', 'x11-
69 drivers/xf86-video-vesa-2.2.1', 'nomerge')
70 >=x11-base/xorg-server-1.5.99.901 required by ('ebuild', '/', 'x11-
71 drivers/xf86-input-mouse-1.5.0', 'merge')
72 >=x11-base/xorg-server-1.2[-minimal] required by ('installed', '/',
73 'x11-drivers/xf86-video-ati-6.12.4', 'nomerge')
74 (and 5 more)
75
76 ('ebuild', '/', 'x11-drivers/ati-drivers-9.10', 'merge') pulled in by
77 x11-drivers/ati-drivers:1 required by @world
78 x11-drivers/ati-drivers required by ('ebuild', '/', 'x11-base/xorg-
79 drivers-1.7', 'merge')
80 x11-drivers/ati-drivers required by @world
81
82 Wonko

Replies

Subject Author
Re: [gentoo-user] Going ~x86? Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon@×××××.com>
Re: [gentoo-user] Going ~x86? Albert Hopkins <marduk@×××××××××××.org>
Re: [gentoo-user] Going ~x86? KH <gentoo-user@××××××××××××××××.de>
Re: [gentoo-user] Going ~x86? Volker Armin Hemmann <volkerarmin@××××××××××.com>
Re: [gentoo-user] Going ~x86? Alex Schuster <wonko@×××××××××.org>
Re: [gentoo-user] Going ~x86? daid kahl <daidxor@×××××.com>