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From: Alexander Skwar <listen@×××××××××××××××.name>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Upgrading to gcc 4.1: emerge -e world required?
Date: Sat, 27 May 2006 18:06:53
Message-Id: 44789344.4080904@mid.email-server.info
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-user] Upgrading to gcc 4.1: emerge -e world required? by Richard Fish
1 Richard Fish wrote:
2 > On 5/27/06, Alexander Skwar <listen@×××××××××××××××.name> wrote:
3 >> gcc update "Nothing needs to be done".... Sure... How much did the
4 >> person who wrote this check? "Hello World!" worked, and that's it?
5 >>
6 >> Sometimes this complete lack of QA is really pissing me off :(
7 >
8 > Stop using ~arch packages, or stop whining.
9
10 No, I won't do neither. The GWN and the upgrade doc used to say,
11 that an upgrade is (basically) riskless.
12
13 That's wrong - as it has been confirmed and corrected now. If that
14 warning would have been there in the gcc-upgrade doc, everything
15 would have been fine.
16
17 > ~arch works most of the
18 > time, but it is a _testing_ branch. Do you expect the devs to login
19 > to each and every Gentoo user's system to test a new package and
20 > ensure complete functionality before adding it to ~arch?
21
22 Bullshit.
23
24 I'd expect them to do testing and not give so bold statements
25 as "The upgrade should be incredibly easy and require no additional
26 work to install and use. " without making VERY sure, that this
27 is actually true.
28
29 Granted - there's only so much that can be done. And also
30 granted, that's ~arch. But that statement is just so irritating.
31
32 And what's also irritating are so many small errors, like files
33 with non-matching filesizes/checksums in the digests.
34
35 > I just upgraded to gcc-4.1 and pruned 3.4.6, and KDE, koffice, OOo,
36 > and mozilla all still load and run fine.
37
38 Did you yet re-compile Qt 3 and Qt 4? No?
39
40 Then you're experiences just don't count. KDE broke on my
41 system, when I recompiled Qt. Before the recompile, KDE was fine.
42 As I've wrote in lengths on the bug report. Seems you've not read
43 it - why not? Why am I writing reports and *also* post links
44 here?
45
46 Did you try to compile glib? No? Then I guess you've done no testing.
47
48 Or what kind of testing have you done?
49
50 > Since these are all heavy
51 > C++ users, I am sure that for my (pure ~x86) system, there are no
52 > issues.
53
54 Congrats. It's not only me who's having problems.
55
56 Alexander Skwar
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