Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

[Tanstaafl]

On 2014-02-20 12:43 AM, Canek Peláez Valdés <caneko@×××××.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 6:38 AM, Tanstaafl<tanstaafl@×××××××××××.org>  wrote:
>> On 2014-02-19 2:04 AM, Daniel Campbell<lists@××××××××.us>  wrote:
>>>
>>> For such a profile to be legitimate, systemd would have to be chosen as
>>> the default.
>>
>> Ridiculous. Forget about Canek's rant...
>>
>> This is about *choice*. Also, I would argue the *opposite of what Canek is
>> saying in this last rant...

> Tanstaafl, can we please not use terms like "rants"? I'm just giving
> my opinion, trying to be respectful and civil to the others
> participants in this thread. I would appreciate if you do the same to
> me.

Sorry, Canek, no offense was intended, but if you go back and re-read 
your 'extremely overly enthusiastic' post (this plus the content is why 
I referred to it as a 'rant'), while I agree with most everything you 
said, your primary point - that it should be the people who *don't* want 
systemd doing all of the work - was backwards, and that was what I 
wanted to point out.

So, please, don't take it as an insult. In fact you have done a very 
good job of patiently spelling out the advantages of systemd, to the 
point I'm no longer afraid of it taking over and devouring the linux world.

That said, in reality, there is (or should be) nothing inherently 
insulting about a claim that something you (or anyone) says was a 
'rant'. Pretty much everyone I know who has strong opinions on things 
like this rants all the time. Sometimes those rants have more 
value/substance than others. A good rant will provide lots of 
substantive supporting documentation backing up the claims in the rant. 
A bad rant just makes a bunch of baseless claims and/or personal attacks.

Bottom line: since Gentoo's default and primary init system is (and 
hopefully will be for a very long time) OpenRC, it is on the systemd 
folks to do the work to get systemd fully supported.