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On Tue, Dec 20, 2016 at 12:44 PM, Heiko Baums <lists@××××××××××××.de> wrote: |
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> Am 20.12.2016 um 17:47 schrieb Rich Freeman: |
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>> Clearly nobody forced you to run it, because you aren't running it |
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>> now. |
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> That's again one of those silly arguments. I'm just not running it |
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> because I'm using Gentoo again. On Arch Linux they forced systemd onto |
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> the users. Because the Arch Linux users don't have any choice if they |
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> want to use Arch Linux, because they e.g. don't want to compile anything |
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> and still want to have bleeding edge software. |
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Anybody can run openrc on Arch linux. They just have to set it up |
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themselves, or form a group to share the work. |
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>> Nobody is going to waste their time trying to convince you that |
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>> systemd is better than anything else, because in the end your opinion |
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>> doesn't actually affect us. |
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> Because of your ignorant attitude. Fortunately it's not only my opinion. |
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> Unfortunately the Poettering fanboys are just the loudest but not the |
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> majority. |
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No, your opinion doesn't affect me because the only thing you've been |
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contributing is noise. I don't need your help to run systemd, or |
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anything else, and you aren't offering it besides. |
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If anything it works the other way around. There seem to be a lot |
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more Gentoo devs who run systemd who are actively contributing openrc |
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scripts than Gentoo devs who run openrc who are actively contributing |
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systemd units. I haven't actually done a poll but I see a lot more |
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people asking the systemd team to help them write systemd units than |
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people asking the openrc team to help them write init.d scripts. |
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>> People who prefer systemd will maintain |
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>> it, and people who prefer openrc will maintain that, and we can all be |
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>> happy. |
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> That's true for Gentoo, Slackware, Devuan, and maybe still Debian, but |
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> not for the other Distros like Ubuntu and its derivatives, Arch Linux, |
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> Redhat, Fedora etc. |
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Anybody can maintain openrc on any distro. Maybe they can't put it in |
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the official repository, that would be up to the people who control |
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those repositories. However, as everybody is quick to point out the |
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dependency list for sysvinit+openrc is incredibly light, which makes |
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it fairly easy to run on any distro. You could probably get sysvinit |
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running on arch in 15min. Openrc would take longer, mainly because |
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you'd have to adapt the scripts for any services you care about. But, |
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it isn't THAT hard to do. |
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Rich |
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