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* Neil Bothwick <neil@××××××××××.uk> wrote: |
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> On Wed, 16 May 2007 16:23:13 +0200, Enrico Weigelt wrote: |
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> > Thank you for producing lots of circular dependencies |
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> > (ie. in the Xserver), which make maintenance complicated. |
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> Lots? If you'd posted this yesterday, I would have been able to recall |
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> the last time I was hit with one. |
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At least several. I didn't find an good solution for checking |
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the whole tree yet, so I yet know some. Good candidates are |
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where PDEPENDs occour. For example the Xserver. |
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I'm currently in the process of fixing the ebuilds in my overlay. |
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> I did get a circular dependency today, sdl and directfb and guess what? |
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> The error message also contained the solution, which was to temporarily |
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> change a USE flag. |
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*rofl* what a good solution. really clean. gread idea. |
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<snip> |
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> The great thing about free software is that it all comes with a full |
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> money back guarantee. So before you start shooting your mouth off when |
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> something produced by volunteers in their own time fails to work for you, |
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> stop and remember how much you paid for it and why. |
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You don't need to give me lesson on OSS, I've did enough work OSS |
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projects over last 12 years to know how it works. |
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And I'm really tired of trying to talk with learn-resistent devs who |
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clearly expressed that they don't any of my help and told be to stay |
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away from b.g.o. So I'm maintaining my own overlay and concentrate on |
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getting things running instead of wasting time with certain devs. |
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The motivation of this mail is to inform other, probably frustrated, |
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users, that there's more than the official tree. |
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> Since you are clearly able to solve a problem that comes fro upstream |
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> and which the combined might of SUSE and Gentoo has failed to do, |
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Which problem from the upstream ? |
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I'm a little bit involved in Xorg development (especially on the |
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modularizing project), so if you tell me the problem, I could fix it. |
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The problem w/ x11-base/xorg-server are the PDEPENDs on (external) |
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driver packages. I dont see any valid reason for depending the |
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Xserver on drivers, which themselfes depend on the Xserver. |
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If you want some package which pulls in an complete Xserver installation |
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*and* drivers (based on certain useflags), why not just an virtual |
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package ? |
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IMHO, there were days where it had been done so (when PDEPEND did not |
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yet exist). I don't know why this had changed, probably just to get |
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an new feature widely used. (BTW: I do not see any valid reason for |
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PDEPEND anyways) |
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<snip> |
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> why not offer to help instead of posting sarcastic rants to a user |
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> support list? $DEITY forbid, you could even file a bug describing |
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> the problem and providing your solution. |
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I'm tired of trying to help where my help is not wanted. |
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As already said: the devs clearly told me that I'm unwelcomes, so |
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I leave them alone. |
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In fact, I'll provide an solution. It will be published within the |
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OSS-QM project. But I won't waste any second on filing any bug, |
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just for that it's marked invalid by folks like Jakub. |
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cu |
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Enrico Weigelt == metux IT service - http://www.metux.de/ |
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Please visit the OpenSource QM Taskforce: |
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http://wiki.metux.de/public/OpenSource_QM_Taskforce |
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Patches / Fixes for a lot dozens of packages in dozens of versions: |
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http://patches.metux.de/ |
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