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From: R0b0t1 <r030t1@×××××.com>
To: "gentoo-user@l.g.o" <gentoo-user@l.g.o>
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Skype
Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2017 18:02:31
Message-Id: CAAD4mYjahjB0qXkK76mAkArtNzs8Q7Urma3cjEVJDTmg-DxbMQ@mail.gmail.com
In Reply to: [gentoo-user] Skype by Jigme Datse Yli-RAsku
1 Hello,
2
3 On Monday, November 27, 2017, Jigme Datse Yli-RAsku <
4 jigme.datse@×××××××××××××××.com> wrote:
5 > Is Skype "largely unusable" on Gentoo? It feels like about 3 days ago I
6 > was forced to upgrade because "this version is no longer supported" and
7 > to upgrade I had to keyword the latest version. If this keeps
8 > happening, to me, this is broken. And I'm not sure if the problem is
9 > that we are so far behind, that when Microsoft removes support we only
10 > just barely meet the requirements, or if there is something I am missing.
11 >
12 > I *do* like to keep my computer updated, but unless I misunderstand (and
13 > it seems that Gentoo has changed a lot since I started using it about
14 > 15-20 years ago (I think)) stable is the recommended way to run the
15 > system unless you want to go into "here be pesky programmes" territory.
16 > When I started, even "stable" was a lot more work than previously used
17 > distributions, but with Gentoo, I've always felt that with Gentoo, while
18 > doing "basic stuff" can be more difficult, other distributions have
19 > always been "if it doesn't work out of the box, it's probably not that
20 > worth trying to figure it out."
21 >
22 > I still feel that getting things working in Gentoo is always "a bit of
23 > work" and if it "doesn't just work" it often still can be done without a
24 > whole lot more work. But having to upgrade in a "manual way" on
25 > approximately a weekly basis just to have functionality tells me that
26 > something is badly broken (and I don't feel it is Gentoo in this case,
27 > but I need to have some better understanding).
28 >
29 > I know, that when I was trying to figure out just "what was supported" I
30 > actually wasn't getting good information...
31 >
32
33 If it is keyworded it is "supported" unless you are using very niche
34 software. This does not mean anyone will be able to help you fix things
35 quickly.
36
37 Unstable packages typically run well. I routinely fix issues by using
38 unstable or even unkeyworded packages over the stable versions. Most issues
39 arise when stable and unstable packages interact, usually due to breaking
40 interface changes. So, paradoxically, an unstable (or testing) system can
41 be more stable than a stable system.
42
43 If you fix an issue by using an unstable package you can request
44 stabilization. Sometimes people forget to do it. For a package like Skype,
45 though, I suspect it will be stabilized as soon as possible.
46
47 Cheers,
48 R0b0t1

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