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On Sonntag, 13. Januar 2008, Eddie Mihalow Jr wrote: |
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> Naga Toro wrote: |
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> > On Sunday 13 January 2008 15.07.57 Eddie Mihalow Jr wrote: |
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> >> I guess you don't get the point of being also in a flame war with a |
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> >> ex-dev who although very bright lacks in all the social skills. I read |
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> >> the thread of these two going at it and hell, I wanted to leave. Who |
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> >> needs the grief of listening to that crap from some a**hole who LEFT the |
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> >> project. Give me a break. |
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> > |
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> > That would be two a**holes in that discussion. If you read it you would |
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> > know that may devs tried to correct drobbins but that he couldn't accept |
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> > the fact that he wasn't the chief anymore and that things have changed |
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> > since he left. |
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> > I'm not sure that the best guy to run Gentoo is a guy who wants to be THE |
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> > chief and not one of the community. |
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> First D Robbins created Gentoo. Second what part of ex-dev don't you |
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> understand. |
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> If you are an ex-dev you shouldn't even be in the discussion period. |
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that is one of the most stupid things I ever read on this list. So users |
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should never be part of discussions? Their needs? Their opinions? |
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Also, drobbins continued his attacks even after explained SEVERAL times that |
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the stuff ciaranm was doing was a) wanted and b) helpfull and c) supervised |
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by devs. |
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But he couldn't shut up OR accept that things changed since he left. |
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Somebody who can not deal with changes, is somebody certainly unfit for |
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leadership. |
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Yes, he started gentoo (my first gentoo was 1.0). And compared to the chaotic |
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times, gentoo is a heaven of stability today. Back under drobbins leadership |
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it was ok, that the tree was broken or some update screwed your system. |
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Happened all the time - nobody complained (too loudly). And some day he left. |
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Things changed. Gentoo is much more stable today. There is no breakage of the |
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week. No large scale surprising 'nothing works anymore'. A lot of things were |
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done - without him. |
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And he comes back and thinks that he can do better? Please - he already has |
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shown that he can't. He has shown that he will leave projects after a short |
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while (stampede, freebsd, enoch, gentoo, Microsoft). He has never shown that |
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he can pull through with a project. |
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