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Am 17.12.2016 um 15:58 schrieb Rich Freeman: |
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> Well, how much did you pay for systemd, and who did you pay it to? |
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And there it is. The second most stupid and second most frequently |
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argument of those Poettering fanboys. |
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You don't expect an answer to this, do you? |
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> And as far as how to switch to something usable goes, the last time I |
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> checked sysvinit was still open source. |
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And what? Systemd is open source, too, but is a pain in the ass. |
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>> So tell me, how to get rid of systemd on Arch Linux, Debian, Raspbian, |
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>> XBian, Ubuntu, Fedora etc. in their most recent releases. |
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> Are you willing to: |
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> 1. Do the work yourself? |
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What is that supposed to mean? I just asked you to tell me how to get |
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rid of systemd on those distros. If you explain it to me, I of course do |
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it myself. |
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> 2. Pay somebody else to do the work for you? |
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And there it is again this stupid argument. |
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> This really comes across as whining because a bunch of volunteers |
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> decided to volunteer their time building things the way they would |
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> prefer to build it, instead of the way you preferred that they build |
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> it. |
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And the next of those stupid arguments of those Poettering fanboys if |
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they are running out of "technical" arguments. But aren't the Poettering |
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fanboys regularly asking for "technical" arguments? Then xhy don't you |
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give such silly answers instead of "technical" one? And why do just |
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explain to me how to get rid of systemd on recent distros? A links would |
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probably do it, too. |
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> If you don't like the options out there, then make your own. |
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And the next silly argument which always comes from these Poettering |
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fanboys. As if everybody is a programmer, and as if everybody who uses a |
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computer and/or Linux has to be a programmer. |
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Still no "technical" argument. Don't you Poettering fanboys always ask |
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for "technical" arguments? Why again such a silly non-technical argument? |
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> If you don't think the guides on how to install Gentoo on a Pi are |
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> good enough, then play around with it until you figure it out, and |
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> then post an article on the Wiki. |
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Didn't you read my e-mail? I don't want to have Gentoo on my Pi, because |
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this would destroy the advantage of the Pi, its low power consumption. |
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Well, maybe I will install Gentoo on the Pi once, just for fun, but |
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that's not the question here. |
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I didn't ask for a howto for installing Gentoo on a Pi, I asked for a |
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howto for getting rid of systemd on recent versions of Arch Linux, |
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Debian, Raspbian, Ubuntu, Fedora etc. You said it's possible and I'm not |
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forced to use systemd, so I guess you know how and can explain it to me. |
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Btw., would have cost you not more time than writing those silly answers |
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that every Poettering fanboy regularly gives since the beginning. |
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Still nothing has changed so far. |
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> Look around Gentoo, or Arch, or Debian. Everything you see is the |
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> result of somebody sacrificing their time to create something and make |
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> it free for everybody. If something seems to be missing, it is |
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> because somebody didn't sacrifice their time to create it. If you |
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> care strongly about something, then at some point you need to get your |
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> hands dirty and create the future you want to see. |
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Those stereotypical silly answers of the Poettering fanboys have been |
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boring from the beginning and still are boring. |
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I just asked you a simple question, about something you volunteered |
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information about. |
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You volunteered saying that it is possible to switch from systemd to |
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another system and that nobody is forcing anybody to using systemd. |
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I just asked you how I can do this. And you? You seemingly can only give |
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those silly, stereotypical, non-technical answers which have absolutely |
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nothing to do with my question and your first statement. |
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That's typical for those Poettering fanboys. Still nothing new. |
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> Complaining on a mailing list isn't going to motivate somebody to help you. |
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Now I'm complaining? Just twist my words so that it fits to your needs. |
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There's still the question: How do I get rid of systemd on the mentioned |
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distros? You said it is possible. |
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Maybe I will get an answer someday. Honestly, I believe not. |
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Heiko Baums |