Re: [gentoo-user] Re: xorg-server-1.5 update/old kernel+old fglrx

[Mark Knecht]

On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 4:53 PM, Mark Knecht<markknecht@×××××.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 4:40 PM, Mark Knecht<markknecht@×××××.com> wrote:
>> On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 4:27 PM, Nikos Chantziaras<realnc@×××××.de> wrote:
>>> On 06/24/2009 02:20 AM, Mark Knecht wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>    Main question is whether there is any change in the way I select
>>>> the fglrx driver with xorg-server-1.5?
>>>>
>>>>    I have a big emerge running on one of my MythTV frontends that uses
>>>> an old 2.6.19 kernel with an old 8.28 ati-driver package. The machine
>>>> does not use a keyboard or mouse. I cannot update either the kernel or
>>>> the ati-driver for hardware support reasons. When the emerge is
>>>> finished in a couple of hours do I need to change the xorg.conf file
>>>> at all to use the server with the fglrx driver or will it just work?
>>>
>>> There's a pretty big chance that 8.28 is so old that it does not support
>>> xorg-server 1.5 at all.  That means you can't use xorg-server 1.5.  And if
>>> you're not prepared to update your kernel, then the xorg native driver
>>> (xf86-video-ati) is out of the question too.
>>>
>>> It looks to me you'll have to keep using the older xorg-server.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Thanks Nikos. I hope that's not the case or I've waster a couple of
>> hours because emerge didn't stop me from doing this. No messages at
>> all about anything like too old a kernel or vidieo driver.
>>
>> It's almost done so I guess I'll just wait and then see how it goes.
>>
>> There is no way to update the kernel as far as I know. The ATI chip
>> that's in the computer has an S-video output that I need to drive the
>> TV. After 8.28 ATI stopped supporting S-Video for this chip meaning I
>> cannot update ati-drivers. To use the 8.28 ati-driver package I'm
>> forced to use the 2.6.19 kernel.
>>
>> Believe me, I'd like to update but don't know how to unless I buy a
>> new video card. I haven't looked in the box in a LONG time but I think
>> it's possibly PCI only, and then it's also low form factor so it will
>> probably be pretty hard to find ANY video card to fit it, but maybe
>> I'll look around in case I have to go that way.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Mark
>>
>
> OK, after the reboot fglrx is in memory but Xorg.0.log is complaining
> about missing symbols:
>
> myth12 ~ # uname -a
> Linux myth12 2.6.19-gentoo-r5 #2 PREEMPT Sat May 19 17:55:30 PDT 2007
> i686 Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 2.26GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux
> myth12 ~ # lsmod | grep fglrx
> fglrx                 390828  0
> agpgart                24240  2 fglrx,ati_agp
> myth12 ~ #
>
> (II) LoadModule: "fglrx"
>
> (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers//fglrx_drv.so
> dlopen: /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers//fglrx_drv.so: undefined symbol:
> miZeroLineScreenIndex
> (EE) Failed to load /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers//fglrx_drv.so
> (II) UnloadModule: "fglrx"
> (EE) Failed to load module "fglrx" (loader failed, 7)
> (EE) No drivers available.
>
> Fatal server error:
> no screens found
>
>
> Am I completely hosed here?
>
> Looking on NewEgg I'm not finding any AGP fanless, low-profile cards
> yet and I'm not sure the machine supported AGP anyway. I'll have to
> open the box or find some old docs online. There is one fanless ATI
> Radeon 9250-based PCI-based card but it's expensive for this
> application at $90.
>
> Looks like it's back to the older xorg-server.
>
> - Mark
>

Am I hosed again? Did updating portage break my machine by removing
what I was just using:

1245799356: === Unmerging... (x11-base/xorg-server-1.1.1-r5)
1245799361:  >>> unmerge success: x11-base/xorg-server-1.1.1-r5
1245799361:  >>> emerge (62 of 64) x11-base/xorg-server-1.5.3-r6 to /
1245799363:  === (62 of 64) Cleaning
(x11-base/xorg-server-1.5.3-r6::/usr/portage/x11-base/xorg-server/xorg-server-1.5.3-r6.ebuild)
1245799363:  === (62 of 64) Compiling/Merging
(x11-base/xorg-server-1.5.3-r6::/usr/portage/x11-base/xorg-server/xorg-server-1.5.3-r6.ebuild)
1245800519:  === (62 of 64) Merging
(x11-base/xorg-server-1.5.3-r6::/usr/portage/x11-base/xorg-server/xorg-server-1.5.3-r6.ebuild)
1245800527:  >>> AUTOCLEAN: x11-base/xorg-server:0

myth12 ~ # ls -a /usr/portage/distfiles/xorg-server-*
/usr/portage/distfiles/xorg-server-1.5.3-gentoo-patches-08.tar.bz2
/usr/portage/distfiles/xorg-server-1.5.3.tar.bz2
myth12 ~ #

Is xorg-server-1.1.1 completely gone and I'm hosed? I'm not finding it
on my my machine. The only variations on that theme seem to be in
/var/db/pkg. No tar files, just other programming junk.

I absolutely HATE this about portage. Update your machine just
thinking about trying a new piece of software and then find you cannot
immediately go back. Gentoo was supposed to be about choice. Seems
it's not about my choice anymore. Bummer.

Maybe I can find this on another machine somewhere. Don't know what to
do though.

Family gets no MythTV for a few days, or maybe forever?

I'm trying to mask things to check this and emerge is really mad at me.

- Mark