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090917 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: |
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> On Mittwoch 16 September 2009, Philip Webb wrote: |
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> > Faced with the KDE 4 steamroller rumbling & shuddering ever closer, |
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> > I've been trying out the 4.3.1 versions of apps I frequently use. |
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> > I have not installed the desktop management part of KDE, |
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> > only the apps themselves & whatever deps they require: |
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> > Fluxbox is my desktop manager of choice. |
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> fluxbox is not a manager. It is merely a window manager. |
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It manages my desktop much better than KDE 4.2.1 did ... |
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> KDE can use all ICCCM adhering WM. |
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How can "KDE use WM" ? -- your words make no sense in English. |
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>> Konsole 4.3.1 -- very much dumbed down from 3.5.10 ; |
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>> big problem: it seems impossible to predetermine window size; |
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>> result: back to 3.5.10 & be prepared to use Xterm & Xfce's Terminal. |
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> strange, every konsole window I open has the same size. |
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Exactly: I want different sizes for different uses. |
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Xterm does it, Terminal does it, Konsole 3.5.10 did it via command flags, |
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but these have disappeared in Konsole 4.3.1 (try 'konsole --help'). |
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> Also, do you have tried the geometry setting? right click on title, |
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> window specific settings, create profil, put size into profile done. |
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When I right-click on the titlebar, I get a Fluxbox list of options, |
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none of which is "window-specific" nor relates to profil(e)s. |
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Of course, I've tried editing profiles, but it has no effect on size; |
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I also checked Google for 'resizing konsole' & similar. |
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>> Okular 4.3.1 -- usable, but no noticeable improvement on Kpdf 3.5.10 . |
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> that is a joke, right? |
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No, it's very serious: KDE 4 is jazzed up visually & dumbed down in options. |
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Okular is as described when compared with Kpdf 3 . |
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>> Konqueror 4.3.1 -- no way to import bookmarks, |
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>> but they are easily copied from ~/.kde3.5 , as are style sheets; |
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> wrong. bookmark editor: 'File' 'import', 'import kde 3 bookmarks'. |
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What is "bookmark editor" ? -- it's not a dependency of Konqueror 4 . |
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My problem -- unlike other people's -- with your responses |
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is that you are typically inaccurate both in content & in English. |
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You are usually amusing, but I suspect that is not your intention. |
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I am genuinely disappointed by KDE 4.3.1 , which I had hoped |
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would be a real step forward given recent KDE PR announcements. |
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Roughly 50 % options in KDE 3 have not been retained in KDE 4 |
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& by now it's not simply that they haven't got around to implementing them: |
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it's clear they don't intend to & are merely concentrating on eye-candy. |
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It's utter madness, but with free software there are alternatives, |
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which I have started to adopt (Fluxbox, Thunar, Terminal). |
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Does anyone have useful comments, even "you can't do that any more" ? |
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