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From: Philip Webb <purslow@××××××××.net>
To: gentoo-user@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.3.1 query
Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2009 00:12:13
Message-Id: 20090917001209.GA7212@ca.inter.net
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.3.1 query by Volker Armin Hemmann
1 090917 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
2 > On Mittwoch 16 September 2009, Philip Webb wrote:
3 > > Faced with the KDE 4 steamroller rumbling & shuddering ever closer,
4 > > I've been trying out the 4.3.1 versions of apps I frequently use.
5 > > I have not installed the desktop management part of KDE,
6 > > only the apps themselves & whatever deps they require:
7 > > Fluxbox is my desktop manager of choice.
8 > fluxbox is not a manager. It is merely a window manager.
9
10 It manages my desktop much better than KDE 4.2.1 did ...
11
12 > KDE can use all ICCCM adhering WM.
13
14 How can "KDE use WM" ? -- your words make no sense in English.
15
16 >> Konsole 4.3.1 -- very much dumbed down from 3.5.10 ;
17 >> big problem: it seems impossible to predetermine window size;
18 >> result: back to 3.5.10 & be prepared to use Xterm & Xfce's Terminal.
19 > strange, every konsole window I open has the same size.
20
21 Exactly: I want different sizes for different uses.
22 Xterm does it, Terminal does it, Konsole 3.5.10 did it via command flags,
23 but these have disappeared in Konsole 4.3.1 (try 'konsole --help').
24
25 > Also, do you have tried the geometry setting? right click on title,
26 > window specific settings, create profil, put size into profile done.
27
28 When I right-click on the titlebar, I get a Fluxbox list of options,
29 none of which is "window-specific" nor relates to profil(e)s.
30 Of course, I've tried editing profiles, but it has no effect on size;
31 I also checked Google for 'resizing konsole' & similar.
32
33 >> Okular 4.3.1 -- usable, but no noticeable improvement on Kpdf 3.5.10 .
34 > that is a joke, right?
35
36 No, it's very serious: KDE 4 is jazzed up visually & dumbed down in options.
37 Okular is as described when compared with Kpdf 3 .
38
39 >> Konqueror 4.3.1 -- no way to import bookmarks,
40 >> but they are easily copied from ~/.kde3.5 , as are style sheets;
41 > wrong. bookmark editor: 'File' 'import', 'import kde 3 bookmarks'.
42
43 What is "bookmark editor" ? -- it's not a dependency of Konqueror 4 .
44
45 My problem -- unlike other people's -- with your responses
46 is that you are typically inaccurate both in content & in English.
47 You are usually amusing, but I suspect that is not your intention.
48
49 I am genuinely disappointed by KDE 4.3.1 , which I had hoped
50 would be a real step forward given recent KDE PR announcements.
51 Roughly 50 % options in KDE 3 have not been retained in KDE 4
52 & by now it's not simply that they haven't got around to implementing them:
53 it's clear they don't intend to & are merely concentrating on eye-candy.
54 It's utter madness, but with free software there are alternatives,
55 which I have started to adopt (Fluxbox, Thunar, Terminal).
56
57 Does anyone have useful comments, even "you can't do that any more" ?
58
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Replies

Subject Author
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.3.1 query Frank Steinmetzger <Warp_7@×××.de>
[gentoo-user] Re: KDE 4.3.1 query walt <w41ter@×××××.com>
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.3.1 query Volker Armin Hemmann <volkerarmin@××××××××××.com>