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Stefan Schweizer wrote: |
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>On Wed, 09 Mar 2005 20:56:51 +0200, Alin Nastac <mrness@g.o> wrote: |
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>>Okay, I buy it. |
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>>a) Devs, who has a fcdsl, fcdsl2, fcdslsl, fcdslusb and/or fcdslslusb |
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>>(AVM FRITZ!Card DSL)? Step up and take net-dialup/fcdsl under your wing! |
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>I got two of these donated by AVM (fcdslusb and fcdslsl). And |
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>additionally a fcusb for net-dialup/fritzcapi |
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>I think all the AVM-drivers in the tree are covered by me. |
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>I dont think that it means that you are a bad maintainer when you do |
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>not own the hardware. But if you dont like the work you should not do |
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>it, please tell us then, I am ready to take over as much as I can to |
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>help you. |
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You already help me a lot, Stefan, and I thank you for that. |
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I don't really intend to drop my jobs to others - this isn't me, I take |
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my responsibilities very seriously. But if you think you'll be doing a |
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better job by taking it, please, be my guest. I don't want to appear as |
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the guy who broked Gentoo's QA procedures... |
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I'm only annoyed by the bad attitude of some devs who will get involved |
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only what suits them, forgetting that if they would not help, no one |
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will. Btw, what is the sense of ~arch if not "testing"? No gentooer |
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expects from a ~arch ebuild to be stable, so the sky would not fall if |
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you made a mistake and release it under this keyword. When I hear "I |
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cannot mark foo library as ~arch because I don't know how to test it" |
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smells like excuse to me. |
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As for QA... does anyone think we *can* have proper QA procedures, with |
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our release speed and decentralized development model? And with only ... |
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350 devs from which God knows how many are still active? :-D |
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Who thinks that clearly doesn't have a clue what QA means. It is |
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practically impossible to test every combination of ebuilds/USE/CFLAGS |
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so all we do is a surface test, letting the burden of testing on the |
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shoulders of our users. |
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Despite of our unorthodox development process, many people believes |
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(including me) that our distro surclass traditional ones and is |
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generally more stable (go figure!). |
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Maybe I'm too exigent, but I only ask from people to do what I do : be |
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genuinely interested in helping the devs who need it. Heck, I always try |
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to help any gentooer, dev or not. We all have our little systems because |
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our predecesors have worked on it, not because they sit down and |
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debated whether to mark foo ebuild as ~arch or not. |
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>>c)... |
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>>In fact, who has any device that would work with some driver from |
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>>net-dialup? I don't have _any_ device at all! |
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>Do you have a dsl-connection? |
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>How do you connect to the internet? |
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I do have a dsl connection, but it is through a modem with an eth |
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interface, so I need no driver. |
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