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From: Peter <pete4abw@×××××××.net>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Re: Unified nVidia Driver Ebuild ready for testing
Date: Sat, 24 Dec 2005 12:55:19
Message-Id: pan.2005.12.24.12.50.51.15275@comcast.net
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Unified nVidia Driver Ebuild ready for testing by Carsten Lohrke
1 On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 13:09:36 +0100, Carsten Lohrke wrote:
2
3 > On Saturday 24 December 2005 12:34, Peter wrote:
4 >> THAT is a very reasonable comment!
5 >
6 > Not at all. "Meta ebuilds" are a provisional and fugly workaround as long as
7 > we have to wait for proper sets and only to be used for a larger set of
8 > packages. Wrapping three or four ebuilds with another one, just for the sake
9 > of lazy people having only to emerge a single ebuild is ridiculous. The only
10 > valid point in the original idea to merge the nvidia-* packages is to reduce
11 > the overall number of packages in the repository. As you heard the voices
12 > against it, ranging from none to valid reasons, everything left is to bury
13 > the idea and to close the bug.
14 >
15 >
16 > Carsten
17
18 Would you please add the comments to the bug report? Or, may I copy them?
19 Please advise.
20
21 Also, I find it absolutely fascinating that the only people against this
22 concept are devs, and the only people for it are users. Remember that
23 users are your customers. Every effort should be made to keep them happy.
24
25 If you are against meta ebuilds, what is your opinion on KDE? Instead on 9
26 (or so) packages, there are now over 250! Are 250 separate ebuilds better?
27 I cannot think of another distro that slices up KDE that way. Meta
28 ebuilds at least allow the user the ability to opt out of trying to
29 decide which ebuilds to emerge!
30
31 I always used to use CVS to update my KDE source tree, then compile only
32 the changed modules. I could have a whole updated KDE inside an hour. Now
33 that is performance!
34
35 Here, with the unified nvidia, the intent was to REDUCE ebuilds and
36 simplify installation process. I thought the recommendation of a meta
37 nvidia ebuild is a worthy one worth consideration.
38
39 IMHO sometimes the desire to fine tune things and optimize things goes a
40 little over the edge. nVidia upstream combines all the products together
41 in their .run files. There is minimal time difference between having the
42 entire suite installed versus each one individually. And, from a user's
43 point of view, what could be simpler?
44
45 Anyway, I appreciate your feedback.
46
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