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From: Ciaran McCreesh <ciaranm@×××××××.org>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: EAPI spec (was Re: Re: let's clear things up (was Slacker archs))
Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 04:16:15
Message-Id: 20070222041311.3611f54a@snowdrop
In Reply to: [gentoo-dev] Re: EAPI spec (was Re: Re: let's clear things up (was Slacker archs)) by Steve Long
1 On Thu, 22 Feb 2007 04:04:37 +0000 Steve Long
2 <slong@××××××××××××××××××.uk> wrote:
3 | > I'm saying that until there is an independent implementation, the
4 | > specification is worthless and will contain huge numbers of errors.
5 |
6 | Seriously? Without an implementation, your spec of what should happen
7 | will have loads of errors?
8
9 Yes. It will describe what people think is allowed, rather than what
10 really is. Perfect example -- we'd never have caught the multiple
11 sourcing issue without an independent implementation.
12
13 | Clearly you are more concerned about getting Paludis ready. spb has
14 | other priorities, fair enough, but this is something that seems
15 | fairly important for gentoo as a whole.
16
17 Only if you consider replacing Portage to be important for Gentoo as a
18 whole.
19
20 Which I do, but one also has to have something with which to do the
21 replacing...
22
23 | In process terms, I can't understand why the team working on it isn't
24 | a pkgcore dev (eg marienz if you can't communicate with ferringb)
25
26 Because a) they haven't asked, b) they're more interested in replacing
27 the ebuild format and c) every other time they've gotten involved
28 they've been highly unhelpful.
29
30 | a portage dev such as zmedico
31
32 We have a Portage dev reviewing it.
33
34 | and say antarus from treecleaners.
35
36 What on earth do tree cleaners have to do with it?
37
38 | I'd add in someone like jakub
39
40 Are you insane? What on earth could Jakub possibly contribute? If you
41 want a rough indication of Jakub's level of ebuild understanding, take
42 a look at bug 160328.
43
44 | or spanky from bug wranglers
45
46 Why? What on earth do bug wranglers have to do with a package manager
47 specification? If Mike wants to contribute he's more than welcome to,
48 but it wouldn't be in a bug wrangling role...
49
50 | and Gianelloni for the infrastructure.
51
52 And what on earth do infrastructure have to do with a package manager
53 specification?
54
55 Somehow I don't think you have the slightest clue what the scope of the
56 document is...
57
58 --
59 Ciaran McCreesh
60 Mail : ciaranm at ciaranm.org
61 Web : http://ciaranm.org/
62 Paludis, the secure package manager : http://paludis.pioto.org/

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